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We will counsel you on your unspeakable concerns.
- National Competition on Worries. - National Competition on Worries.
Our guests today...
- are known for their honesty. - That's right.
It's Hong Seok Cheon.
Wax.
Pyo Jin In...
and Din Din.
I heard Seok Cheon and Wax are very close.
- They're very close. - Right.
Among all of my friends,
- Is she your best friend? - she's my number one friend.
- They're best friends. - Yes.
People call me his honorary wife.
Honorary wife?
He's her honorary husband.
I can't be his wife physically, so I'm his honorary wife.
(I can't be his wife physically.)
- Goodness. - Seok Cheon is...
Seok Cheon, do you have something you'd like to say today?
- Me? - Yes.
My honorary wife has a concert coming up.
She has also released a new song.
- Please support her. - When is your concert?
I have a concert on May 27th and 28th in Seoul.
I'll be touring the country in June. I hope many of you will come.
- Wax, could you sing for us? - Let's listen to Wax's song.
I feel embarrassed.
- There's no need to feel that way. - Why don't you stand up?
Ready? Go.
As if
- He's trying to help. - You're making it worse.
(Ridiculous)
- You're doing well. - Okay.
Sit back down. You're ruining the song.
- May I sing now? - Yes.
("Fixing My Makeup" by Wax)
It's not a song you should clap to.
- She said not to clap to it. - You can clap.
(This feels awkward.)
- That's why I'm sorry - That's why I'm sorry
- Why did you love - Why did you love
- A woman like me - A man like me
Why did you have to leave me?
What did he say?
You ruined everything.
(Let's listen to this song at her concert.)
Now that you're on Hello,
is there an area you want to give advice to?
What about you, Seok Cheon?
- I can help with break ups. - I see.
I'm good at helping people get through break ups.
I have many women who ask for advice after breaking up.
I'm sure there are.
I advise them from a man's perspective.
- From a man's perspective? - Yes.
Of course.
He also knows the woman's side, too.
- From the woman's perspective? - Yes.
He knows both sides of the story.
- How about you, Wax? - What type of advice can you give?
I'm quite interested in things that are good for the body.
- Taking care of one's health? - Yes.
- What is she doing? - Is she exercising?
Is that you, Wax?
Did you hide your face on purpose?
- Is that her? She's so fit. - That's Wax?
- That's amazing. - Who's the man?
- Stop checking out the man. - Well...
We're talking about Wax right now.
You should be looking at Wax.
How is she doing that?
- Jin In, you're a psychiatrist. - Right.
I listen to all kinds of worries...
especially the ones about marriage.
- I'm an expert in this field. - Marriage problems.
Din Din, you're young and a rapper,
- so what will you focus on? - I can be...
honest about things that people are afraid to say.
- He's quite honest. - He's very expressive.
We look forward to how the guests will participate.
Last week, "Let's Break Up"...
- took its first win. - That's right.
I have a dance partner I've been with for eight years.
She's my mother.
She's addicted to entering competitions.
We enter about 30 competitions a year.
I have no time to see friends.
He doesn't need friends.
He should focus only on his work.
Your father must have complaints about your mother.
He said he understands men who live separately from their family.
He was quite sick last week. Are you feeling better?
Actually, I was admitted to a hospital...
the day after coming on the show.
The doctor told me that I had a cold from too much stress...
and exhaustion which caused pneumonia and...
- food poisoning simultaneously. - Goodness.
I was in the hospital until yesterday.
- Did you get better? - I recently got better.
You should have worn long pants instead of shorts.
- That's true. - You should dress more warmly.
- Goodness. - That's right.
- It's because he had a fever. - I was very surprised.
Ma'am, do you think that you were too greedy and that...
you should change?
We can't stop rehearsing right away.
I don't want to stop dancing yet.
If I were given the chance,
I'd like to compete internationally.
You're so greedy.
- He's giving her a look. - I know.
It was a worry for the father as well.
How do you feel?
I think my son needs a break from dancing,
and my wife needs to bring it to a close.
- Well said. - He's poetic.
That's right.
We'll find out if they'll win again today.
- We'll give the winner... - A 1,000 dollars gift certificate.
Show us the keywords please.
("Scratch My Back", "Talkative Husband", "Staff Is Family")
It's a story called "Talkative Husband".
Hello, I'm a working mother in my 30s with two sons.
I'm sure all working mothers know.
Work and housework keep us very busy.
My husband helps me with cleaning, laundry...
and cooking for the children.
That sounds great.
However, I dislike being with my husband.
When I wake up in the morning,
my husband says, "Good morning. What's for breakfast?"
"The weather is beautiful today."
"That yellow dust is a serious problem these days."
"Our car gets dirty because of it. I should wash the car this weekend."
"Honey, do you know what my plans are for today?"
This is my worry.
When I'm at work,
- he calls me. - Does he talk for 30 minutes?
"Honey, what are you doing? I'm on my way to work now."
"I'm a little hungry. Are you at work?"
"Is everyone at work?"
- "What are you up to?" - He doesn't stop.
"Honey, I'm busy right now, so call me later."
He calls me back five minutes after hanging up.
"Honey, what are you doing? I just got out of the taxi."
"The street has changed a lot."
"It's quite different from before."
"You know the kimchi jjigae restaurant? It disappeared."
"I wonder where it went."
Why is he talking about that? She's busy.
He calls me no less than 50 times a day.
(He calls her 50 times a day.)
I got very upset because my husband talked too much.
"Could you please be quiet?"
"I'm sick of your chatter."
"How could you say that?"
- "You are sick of my chatter?" - There he goes again.
"How would you feel if I said that to you?"
"What made you say such a thing?"
"We need to talk. Come here."
- "What are you trying to say?" - Gosh.
I went into the bedroom to avoid him,
but he followed me and started talking.
He talked only about himself for over five hours.
There's only one thing I want.
I'd like to rest peacefully at home.
Please rescue me from my talkative husband.
I'm so sick of his talking.
(She's sick of his talking.)
Excessiveness can be exhausting.
What did you think about her worry?
I couldn't live with a person like him even for one day.
- It'd be very exhausting. - Yes.
- I understand him in a way. - Okay.
He has so much he wants to say because he loves his wife.
Isn't it because he wants to share a lot with her?
- However, he talks too much. - He calls her 50 times a day.
- For example... - I think the wife may...
be listening to him in the wrong way.
She could be ignoring him completely.
We'll have to listen to her.
Based on her letter,
I don't think the husband talks to get a reaction.
I think he does it because he likes to talk.
- He just likes to talk. - It's just one way.
It's a story about a wife whose husband talks too much.
Let's meet the person with the worry.
(Who is the wife sick of her talkative husband?)
Hello.
(Choi Min Jung)
(Sliding)
She slid down.
She enjoyed that a lot.
She must enjoy going to water parks.
She enjoyed that a lot.
He must be very talkative for you to come on our show.
He talks a lot.
- He repeats himself. - He repeats himself?
He keeps talking about things he could keep to himself.
(He could keep them to himself.)
- I know what you mean. - If he needs to go to the bank,
he keeps talking about how he needs to go to the bank.
- He keeps saying he needs to go. - Why doesn't he just go?
- He keeps saying it until he goes? - Yes.
Yes. One time,
I reserved the wrong train tickets.
- You made the wrong reservation? - Yes.
He said, "I told you."
- "See? It was your fault." - That'd be annoying.
He keeps saying that, so I told him to stop it.
Then he keeps saying how he was right.
That method of talking is used often in comedy.
Isn't that understandable for a married couple?
It'd be fine if that's all there is to it.
Once, something unfair happened to my husband.
When he told me what happened, I listened to him.
It was around 1 or 2am, so I fell asleep while listening to him.
He woke me up to keep talking about it.
- He talked until 4am. - Did he repeat the same story?
- This is... - It wasn't even an argument.
Even if you give him advice...
- He must keep talking. - Yes, he repeats the same story.
It seems like Min Jung is also a fast talker.
- I know. - I think you're also talkative.
Are you talkative?
I'm a tax representative, so I give advice to people all day.
I want to rest at home but my husband doesn't leave me alone.
- She must talk a lot at work. - Is there any measure you took...
- to stop him from talking? - There is.
I told him if he has so much to say, he should talk to the front door.
- Talk to the door? - That's not quite acceptable.
Ring the doorbell and say, "Honey, I'm home."
I suggested him to write me an email instead.
(Write me an email instead.)
- She must have been frustrated. - I told him to write an email.
He also call me and talk a lot by himself.
- I told him to record and send it. - Record it?
I answer his calls by saying, "I'm listening to a radio. Go on."
Then you listen to him without saying anything?
When I say something, he says, "I'm not done talking. Listen."
- Does he keep talking? - Yes.
There must be a reason why he talks so much.
- Why does he talk so much? - I don't know.
If this would keep going... I'm so sick of him.
We'll talk to her husband later.
- Are we going to meet him? - Yes.
Please get the recording tapes ready...
- since he'll talk a lot. - I'm worried.
I'm worried about that.
Where is his talkative husband?
Hello.
He doesn't look very talkative.
- She said you're talkative. - He's good looking.
Do you agree that you're talkative?
I don't agree with that.
- Why not? - I only say things I need to say.
You call her 50 times a day.
I call her as many times as it's necessary.
I call because I need to.
I think she's being too sensitive.
Listen.
You even wake up your wife in order to talk to her.
Can't you talk to her in the morning?
- I feel too frustrated to sleep. - He can't sleep otherwise.
- I'd feel too frustrated. - Frustrated?
If you wake her up, she can't sleep.
I can sleep if she accepts what I'm saying,
- but she doesn't answer. - You'd let her sleep?
When she told you to talk to the front door,
what did you do?
I talked to the front door.
- Did you really do it? - Yes.
I want to see that.
- Did you do it on your own? - Yes.
- He really did it. - We'll time you.
- Really? - Tell us what you talked about.
I feel bad for the door.
Imagine you're talking to the front door. Get ready. Go.
I had a long day today, but she'll scold me if I talk about it.
Why do I live like this?
It's easier to talk to myself so I'll just keep talking.
Wait. Why can't I talk to her?
I have a right to talk.
Why can't I talk? It's not like she's always right.
What's wrong with talking about my day...
when she also complains about her bad day?
- You're doing well. - She's a strange woman.
What's wrong with her? She's the weird one, not me.
She told me to talk to the front door, so I will.
I don't have to talk to her. Then I sing a song.
- Which song do you sing? - Sing the song.
Let go of
- The things that passed - "Don't Worry, Dear".
When an elderly person passes by, he looks at me.
Then I say hello to him, and we talk about current issues.
Before I come back into the house,
I think to myself for a while.
I wonder about what I can do to change my wife.
I think I'm the normal one.
Are you finished or are you still talking?
- He's still talking. - This is how I talk to myself.
- Are you still talking? - Yes.
- He's not finished. Keep counting. - Please keep going.
I wonder how I can change my wife.
- It's like a monologue. - Did I do something wrong today?
I didn't, so she won't say anything today.
What's for dinner tonight? She'd complain if I ask her to cook.
I'll make it myself.
He talked for about 1 minute and 33 seconds.
Doesn't he usually talk longer?
I bet he can talk forever.
Do you talk that much even when you're sober?
I don't drink.
- Really? - I don't drink.
- He's sober? - Wouldn't your husband...
stop if you respond? Why don't you respond to him instead?
Then he'd keep talking.
- I know what you mean. - He doesn't end the conversation.
For example, he says he's going to the library with the boys on Sunday.
I say okay. Then for the whole week,
- he says he's going to the library. - Didn't you already respond?
He doesn't stop, so I say, "Stop saying it and just go."
Then he replies, "Don't you want to come? When shall we come back?"
"What shall we study there?" He keeps talking about it.
- That sounds tiring. - She already responded to you.
I'm trying to indicate to her that we should go to the library...
together with the children since it's the weekend.
I'm suggesting that we do something together on the weekend.
Why didn't you ask her to come instead?
When I ask her to come with me, she says,
"Go by yourself."
Why don't you go by yourself then?
It's boring to go alone.
- He wants someone to talk to. - He's also tiring me out.
He wants someone to talk to.
You don't have to respond.
When I don't respond, he asks, "Why aren't you responding?"
He keeps following me around even to the bathroom.
I tell him to stop repeating himself.
- Then he keeps following me... - That could lead to an argument.
and says, "Apologise to me. What did you say to me?"
- I can't even go to the bathroom. - Did you tell her to apologise?
- Yes. - Why?
- He's cute. - We went out to eat one time,
but the food was expensive compared to the quality.
I said, "The food wasn't good. Let's not come back here."
Then she got upset at me.
She told me to stop since I already said it.
I was shocked because she got angry with me while I was eating.
I wanted her to apologise since she treated me unfairly.
That's why I followed her and told her to apologise.
Who suggested going to the restaurant?
- I suggested it. - Apologise to her.
- Apologise to her. - I already did.
- You suggested it? - I'm sorry.
He apologised right away.
I'm sure it was annoying that he followed you around,
- but it could seem cute. - You can accept it as being cute.
- What do you think? - Can't you think of it like that?
I can't do that all the time. Once, we had an argument...
over our children's books. I wanted some time alone,
so I went to the rooftop of the apartment.
- He followed me to the rooftop. - To the rooftop?
Then he started his monologue next to me.
I moved to the other side because I didn't want to listen,
- but he kept talking. - Did he follow you?
Yes, he doesn't leave me alone ever.
Why did you follow her?
- That day, I told her... - Yes.
not to force our second eldest child to study so much.
After we had an argument, she went to the rooftop.
Meanwhile, I talked to him.
When I asked him what he wanted to do,
he said he wants to study only during a specific time period.
- Not the way his mum wanted. - That's a good idea.
I wanted to tell my wife who is at the rooftop what he said.
When I went up, she told me not to blabber.
That's why I got flustered.
Then she moved away from me.
When I followed her, she said, "Just talk to the stairs instead."
Did you talk to yourself?
- Yes, I did. - That's cute.
- He's so cute. - Did you talk to yourself?
- Yes. - Without your wife?
- He's so cute. - She wanted some time alone.
Pardon me for asking, but are you older than him?
Yes.
- She is older? - Yes, she's older.
- What's the age difference? - Two years.
I see. Did she listen to you more when you were dating?
In the past, when I told her I was having a hard time,
she told me not to worry since she's there for me.
She said everything will be fine. Now when I tell her...
I'm having a hard time, she says, "It's okay. It'll be hard tomorrow."
This is how she responds.
I agree with her, but when she actually says it,
I feel quite sad.
- He's cute. - Jin In.
- That's right. - He probably feels...
very confused even though he's been on many programmes.
This is very difficult.
It seems like the husband feels that he's being ignored by his wife.
- That's true. - He's perceptive.
I'm sure he's about to explode...
with anger and frustration.
- That's why he's venting so much. - I think so, too.
- One of you has to change. - That's right.
In most cases, people want the other person to change.
That's why the problem becomes more complicated.
It's easy to solve if they think about how they can change.
However, they keep telling each other to change.
This is a very common problem among all couples, not just them.
After listening to both sides, we realised they are both at fault.
We should hear from their sons' perspective as a third party.
- The sons seem dependable. - They're so cute.
- They look like my sons. - Hello.
- Hi! - He really looks like her.
- Don't call him your son. - All right.
Is the fact that your dad is chatty also a worry for you?
It's true that my dad is a bit chattier than other people,
but in my opinion,
his chattiness has never been a problem for me.
I find everything he says very helpful.
It sounds like he's been brainwashed.
(Nobody expected that answer!)
Look at the father's face. He looks so happy right now.
He looks so happy right now.
- Sir, show your appreciation. - The father is like a kid.
(He's exhilarated.)
If that is the case, what does the younger son think?
Your dad had to go to the rooftop because of you that day.
Is it a worry for you that your dad talks a lot?
- He's so cute. - He's adorable.
Is this a worry for you?
I think that my mum is chattier than my dad.
(Betrayal)
Seriously?
(Laughing)
- Why do you think that? - It's his opinion.
All men are the same!
Why do you think that?
Is it because your mum nags you a lot?
She does nag me a lot and...
- And? - She nags my brother a lot, too.
(Sighing)
She also nags my dad a lot.
- All men are the same. - Hey, kid.
- He's a bit like his dad. - So you're on your dad's side.
(Aren't you on your dad's side?)
My mum says whatever she wants without trying to understand my dad.
- Is that what it looks like to you? - Yes.
What do you mean?
My dad has a difficult job.
- What about your mum's job? - Has he been brainwashed?
Your mum also works hard. Why do you think it's only your dad?
- What does your dad do? - He must get allowance from Dad.
I'm not sure.
- You said he has a hard job! - You said you knew!
You said that your dad has a dangerous job!
Sir, do you tell them everyday...
how difficult and dangerous your job is?
- Have they been hearing it often... - Brainwashing?
enough to have been brainwashed?
In my opinion,
it's normal for anyone to say that you're tired...
and stressed out when you get home from work.
For most people, they stop talking after saying they're tired.
- That's it. - When I say that,
my wife says, "Don't even start. You'll be stressed again tomorrow."
"You'll be stressed again tomorrow."
Well, it's true though.
It stays with you, "You'll be stressed again tomorrow."
- She's not wrong. - That's right.
- By the way... - Please tell us.
How do you feel after listening to your sons?
I think it would upset you.
- She's angry. - She must be sad.
I'm angry for her.
Whether it's my sons or my husband,
they're always just thinking from their perspectives.
Even my sons always tells me, "Mum, do this for me. Do that for me."
- It's hard to live with three guys. - I understand.
- You should've had a daughter. - You need a daughter.
You said that they bother you even when you're working.
When he arrives at work, he calls me to tell me that he arrived safely.
Then I start my car to go to work and he keeps calling me.
"Are you at work yet? Where are you now? You're at the parking lot?"
"Then call me back when you're in your office."
- He keeps on calling me. - How is that...
If I don't pick up, he calls my office.
- Does he ask to speak to you? - He's done that many times.
- What does he say? - He says,
"Why didn't you answer my calls?"
That's how you start fighting.
Isn't it normal to ask the person you love...
if she has eaten and if she has arrived at work safely?
Do you get curious every day?
- That's right. - All the time?
Yes, I want to know all the time.
However, my wife blocks my calls...
(She blocks his calls.)
a lot of the times.
Think about it. What kind of wife...
blocks her husband's calls? My calls aren't phone scams.
- You must've talked a lot. - You must've annoyed her a lot.
My phone calls are not scams.
She even deleted my number from her phone.
- She deleted your number? - Yes, she did.
- That's very rare. - How many times did he call?
On average, he sends me about 150 text messages a day.
He calls me 50 times a day.
- 50 calls a day? - 50 calls?
I had to delete his number because I keep my phone on my desk at work.
When my co-workers walk by, they can see my husband's number popping up.
I'm sure they think that it affects our work in a negative way.
- It's uncomfortable. - It keeps ringing.
- You're on salary. - Exactly.
My co-workers say they're concerned with the calls as well.
- It's a serious problem. - I must say that...
it looks like you're letting your personal feelings...
interfere with her work.
How long is the longest conversation you've ever had?
The longest one.
From 6pm to 5am the next day.
(From 6pm to 5am)
- That's insane. - I can't live like that.
- For 11 hours? - Yes.
Don't you get tired when you talk for that long?
- Of course I get tired. - Then why do you do it?
Why do you do it?
- You can't come to an agreement? - I'm sure they just keep talking.
- It's a vicious cycle. - My wife and I talk,
but she never admits anything.
She just blames everything on me.
She says, "You talk too much."
- Then she ignores me. - He has a lot bottled up inside.
Then I get stubborn. Once I even locked the door of our bedroom.
I locked the door and we started talking.
But she never admitted any of her faults...
and kept talking about what I did wrong.
Then I started getting angry. I felt I was being falsely accused.
I didn't want to lose the fight.
Ma'am, you said that your husband babbles away.
He'd go, "Blah, blah, blah." You'd say, "Okay, that's enough."
I think that's what's happening here. Have you ever...
really paid attention to what he was saying and listened to him?
What do you think?
I don't think I've ever let him finish what he was saying.
He always talks about useless things.
- Is that what you think? - Yes.
(Shocked)
I'm curious about something.
- Go ahead. - If she pays attention...
and listens to you patiently,
what kind of things would you like to say to her?
Do you want to tell her your honest feelings?
She even did this to me once.
I was meeting her acquaintances for the first time.
Back then, I was in the middle of looking for a new job.
I quit my old job as I wanted to do something I was passionate about.
So it was a difficult time for me.
I was meeting her acquaintance for the very first time...
and she said, "He's unemployed."
- That hurt you. - Yes. "He doesn't do anything."
She even said...
- What's wrong? - He's getting emotional.
I guess what she said really hurt you.
She said those things even in front of our kids.
- I'm their father. - Even in front of your kids?
In front of our kids,
she said, "Stop blabbing away. Be quiet. I don't want to hear it."
She shouldn't have done that.
We should pay attention to what he's saying now.
This happened recently. My wife loves chicken feet,
so I went to a famous place and bought some chicken feet for her.
That's so sweet.
But she said this to me.
"You must be rich. You could afford to buy something like this."
She was being a bit sarcastic.
Yes, she was. So I got angry and thought, "Why did I do that?"
That really hurt me. She said that in front of the kids.
What kind of person is your wife to you?
(What kind of person is his wife to him?)
Someone who pushes me away when I try to get closer to her.
When I saw that she had deleted my number from her phone,
I had to save my own number on her phone again.
Gosh, that must've felt horrible.
You wouldn't know what it felt like unless you experienced it.
I feel as if I'm living alone on a deserted island.
Whether you think this is useless chatter or not,
- This is very important. - have you listened to him...
about these things before?
No, I don't think I have.
- Why is that? - I'm sure he brought it up.
- This topic. - You must've heard him talk.
I'm sure she's learned to tune him out.
- Right. - He talks all the time.
- She doesn't take him seriously. - That's right.
That's what it is, right? Actually, this couple...
was going to appear on our show about a month ago.
However, they had a serious fight and couldn't make up,
cancelling their appearance. They're here today because...
this is like their last resort. They wanted to...
talk to each other on this show today. This is...
- like the last chance for them. - I'm glad they decided to come.
What happened after that fight?
Do you think that your wife has been ignoring you even after the fight?
- Yes, she does it all the time. - Do you think so?
Yes, she does. Whenever I say anything to her,
she says that I'm just blabbing away again...
- and she cuts me off. - You keep saying that.
- Yes. - Why do you ignore your husband?
I'm sure that you don't mean to do it, but that is how it comes across.
For some time, he has set many goals,
but he has never actually worked steadily towards any of them.
- So it's about his attitude. - He said he'd deliver milk,
work as a chauffeur or start up a credit card reader business.
He even said that he wanted to work at an interior design firm.
He wanted to meet CEOs because he wanted to start a social enterprise.
He keeps talking but doesn't act upon his words.
- So I can't trust him. - I see.
- He talks without doing anything. - He never acts on it.
From my perspective, I do try my best to achieve my goals,
but my wife puts me down. "You can't do that. You won't work for it."
She just jumps to her own conclusion which discourages me.
(It's a vicious cycle.)
From my observations, men like her husband...
have a certain expectation for their wives.
They want to have a wife who is like their mother.
However, no wife can be their husband's mother.
Think about it. It's impossible for any woman...
to become their husband's mother.
I think that my husband relies on me a lot.
- Right. - Because it's such a vicious cycle,
I actually left home...
for a little while about two months ago.
- You did? - Yes.
I spent some time alone and thought, "Do I really have to live with him?"
"Why am I living like this?"
This is what I felt while listening to both of your stories.
When the two of you were dating,
she could've been maternal towards you because she's older.
Now that you're married, you need to face the reality.
Since both of you are adults,
you two should work together to support your family together.
The husband is seemingly relying on her like he did before marriage.
You can support each other but you can't depend on her.
She doesn't tell you every single thing that happened at work.
She just deals with her daily stress by herself.
I think that your wife is extremely exhausted right now.
I think you need to give her a break and some space.
You're so close to her that you're making her feel suffocated.
That's right. I think that's exactly how I feel.
I'd like to see what the current winner's father thinks.
- Yes, that's be great! - I'm curious, too.
Please pass the microphone to him.
He has been through so much in life.
Please tell us what you think based on your experience.
What do you think about the worries that these two have?
(Let me advise you.)
Konrad Zacharias Lorenz discovered the imprinting theory.
- Lorenz's imprinting theory. - He reads a lot.
- He uses a lot of metaphor as well. - I guess it's psychology.
Baby geese recognise what they first see upon hatching from their mother.
Your lives are important, of course, but...
To your children whom you love,
you two are like a mirror that shows them their world.
I hope you two can take some time to learn and become...
more considerate towards each other's feelings and needs.
- Impressive! - That was very cool.
Usually, people like him...
are not good at following their own advices.
- That's right. - Totally.
- Aren't I right? - That was to the point.
(You read everyone's mind.)
- I think that... - Yes.
the husband feels very hurt thinking that his wife ignores him.
If you don't want to be ignored,
- you should talk less. - That's right.
I'll compare it to playing a card game.
Other people have their cards facing down on the table,
but he talks about everything as if he's showing his cards to everyone.
- He's revealing all of his cards. - You're showing them to everyone.
People normally have their cards facing down.
- Of course you can't win. - He's being foolish.
(That's why he loses every time.)
Don't tell her about your plan about picking up those side jobs.
Just do it and then give her the money.
- "Consider it a bonus!" - That's what he should do.
If you keep talking about it without actually keeping your words,
- you'll just look foolish. - Totally.
(Don't talk about it if you're not going to do it.)
You're thinking of this show as your last chance to make up.
- Tell him whatever you want. - Say everything.
Sir. Please just listen to her.
You know pacifiers babies use, right?
- Sometimes, I want to... - Pacifiers.
shove one in his mouth...
because he keeps whining. I can't even breathe.
- I have a job, too. - Please go on.
Stop calling me so often during the day and babbling away.
- Don't just talk about things. - Don't use that word.
- Don't say that he babbles. - Please don't.
- Okay. - That would upset him.
- It sounds belittling. - He hates that word.
Don't just talk about doing this and doing that.
I'd love it if you can act upon your words.
(Please prove with your actions.)
I'll try to summarise it for you.
- Please don't think that you lost. - Okay.
He thinks that he lost and apologises.
And please don't make him feel defeated.
That will solve your problems. Why do you need to compete?
There is only one solution.
The husband should get a job where he has to talk a lot.
That way, he'll pass out and sleep as soon as he comes home.
- I have a suggestion. - Sure.
These days, you can broadcast your own shows.
- Yes! That's right! - You can talk to the camera.
- Great idea! - "I'm going to hail a taxi."
"Taxi! It's hard to catch one. Taxi!"
- How about "Babbling Away Show"? - That's a great name.
That's an awesome idea.
- You should try it! - Totally.
- As a side job. - That's right.
Anyway, thank you for helping us...
- end it on a happy note. - No problem.
We've listened to both of their perspectives.
What do you all think?
Is it a worry for you or no?
- I agree. I think it's a worry. - I see.
I also think...
But even if the husband was the one who brought the story,
- I would've agreed with him. - Yes, I agree.
- I agree with both of them. - They're the same.
But the wife is the one who brought the story today.
I definitely agree with her and think that it's a worry.
Please press the button. Jin In, tell us.
Yes, I agree with her. It's a serious worry.
To be very honest, I think that they can work this out.
- I don't think it's a worry. - I see.
All right. If you agree with Ms Choi,
please press the button!
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - In 5, 4, 3 2, 1.
Stop now!
Sir.
- Say a few words to your wife. - Sure.
Don't go on about how I talk too much. I'll try to talk less.
And please don't belittle or disrespect me...
in front of our kids or our acquaintances.
I'll do my best to be better, too. As Seok Cheon suggested earlier,
- I'll try to broadcast my own show. - Great.
It really is a great idea.
I wonder how many people will vote for her.
How many votes did "Talkative Husband" get?
(The result)
I think it'll get many votes.
Yes. I saw many people pressing the button.
- I think it'll get over 100 votes. - Oh, no.
- People think they can make up. - That's right.
I think their children helped a lot.
Thank you for joining us today.
You can put on your shoes and go up that way.
The wife has a lot bottled up inside now.
- You should give her a hug! - He needs to...
- broadcast his own show. - Hug your wife.
- Look at their son. - He's applauding.
- Hug her! - Hurry up!
- Hug her! - That's right. Hurry!
Oh, my!
- Hurry! - Oh, my!
(He's so manly!)
Great job!
- You should do that often. - I agree.
It's my turn to introduce a story.
This story is a very impressive one.
The title is "Staff Is Family".
I work at a café and I'm overworked.
Do you think working at a café won't be that much of work?
"Ho Chun, let's try to grow leafy vegetables on the front yard."
"Wouldn't it be awesome to use the vegetables that we grow here?"
"Thanks to it, I'm always running around to sow plants,"
"water them, catch bugs and prepare vegetables."
"I don't even know how my day goes."
"Ho Chun!"
"The regular customer is here."
- "Make budae jjigae for him." - At a café?
The problem is that this isn't everything.
There are a few stores owned by my boss' family around the café.
- Owned by the boss' family? - Yes.
Please make a telephone ringing sound.
(When the phone rings at the café...)
"Gosh, Ho Chun."
"I'm your boss' mum."
"Hurry up and come here. We need your help in the kitchen."
And the phone rings again.
(The phone rings again.)
"Hey, Ho Chun. I'm your boss' brother."
"There's an emergency. You need to come here now. Hurry up!"
He calls and asks me to come over as if his store is on fire,
so I run there as quickly as I can.
"Oh, Ho Chun. You're here."
"I'm a little hungry. Make me ramyeon."
- What? - So it wasn't an emergency?
That's ridiculous.
After helping out my boss' family members,
I go back to the café, and my boss tells me,
"Goodness, Ho Chun."
"Where have you been?"
"Ho Chun, you work at this café. You're my employee, okay?"
I've been working like this for three years.
I'm not part of their family. How can they do this to me?
Please stop making me work like a dog!
That's the story we received.
Now, let's meet Ho Chun and find out more about this story.
Ho Chun, please come out to the stage!
(Who is the person that sent this story?)
(Jung Ho Chun)
(He looks like a nice guy.)
Do you really work at all three stores?
Yes. If the café I work at is right here,
- my boss' brother's store is here. - They're on each side.
- Her mother's store is here. - The café is between them.
When I first found out that their stores are so close to each other,
- I thought it was a great thing. - That's right.
I thought I could work like their family, too.
But that was the beginning of the disaster.
You've been tied up.
How often do you help out at their stores?
I think I go to both stores at least four times a week.
- Four times a week? - Yes.
My shift at the café starts at 2pm.
So I wake up between 8 and 9am and go swimming.
- Then I stop by the café at noon. - Why do you stop by at noon?
My boss' friends are usually waiting for me at the café at noon.
They tell me, "Make budae jjigae for us. Make seafood soup."
- So I make budae jjigae... - Before your shift?
and seafood soup for them.
After that, I go home to change quickly then go back to the café.
My boss' son comes around 4:30pm.
- But I have to pick him up. - Pardon me?
Sorry? Who do you have to pick up?
- Where do you have to go? - His kindergarten?
He gets off the bus right in front of my boss' mum's store.
I bring him to the café from there.
- It's right by the café, then. - What else?
- Then I work at the café, - And?
and my boss' brother calls around 8pm and says, "Come over now."
- Then I work at the café again, - He's too generous.
- and my boss' mother calls... - Does she ask you to come over?
Yes. She's technically my boss, too.
But you can just tell them that you're too busy to help them.
As you know, their stores are right by the café.
Even if I tell them that I can't come over,
they drag me to their stores.
- Is that right? - It'd be awkward for you to refuse.
Thank you for being here today. The boss and her family is here too.
- Yes, they're here. - He's so cute!
Let's meet them now. Hello!
(Let's meet his boss and her family!)
- The kid is so cute! - Please take turns...
and introduce yourselves to us.
The owner of the café should go first.
Yes, hello.
I'm the owner of the café, Song Ae Seon.
I see. So you're his boss. Who is the woman next to you?
Hello. I'm Ae Seon's mother.
- You own the pub. - The pub.
Hello. I own the other pub. I'm Ho Chun's friend as well as...
- the owner of the other pub. - The next person.
I'm just a regular customer.
- I see. - She's a regular customer.
- That's awesome. - Of the café or the pub?
Are you the one who orders the seafood soup and budae jjigae?
Yes.
- Ho Chun's boss? - Yes.
What do you think? Do you agree that it's a worry or...
I'm baffled...
and sad.
- It makes me angry. - Really?
I feel this way because...
I think of Ho Chun as part of my family.
As you know, family members should support and help out each other.
I had no idea that he'd come to this show...
to let the whole world know that it's his worry.
I also do a lot of work.
I boil red beans and make bread as well as cheese.
I'm the owner, but I also work very hard.
Frankly, his workload isn't high at all.
Don't you make him pick up your son, too?
- You can't do that. - Let me explain.
When you look at him,
he's not exactly the sweetest looking guy.
But kids absolutely love him.
Yes, I can see that. When he first came to the stage...
"I think I've seen him before!"
That kind of reaction is possible because...
- he took good care of him. - Right.
What about asking him to make those random dishes?
It was before work had started. You still asked him to make stew.
- Why do you ask him to do that? - Does he like cooking as well?
Yes, he does.
- He likes doing everything. - He is a good cook, isn't he?
- He's a good cook. - I knew it.
You don't seem to think that you overwork Ho Chun.
You know that he works at your family's other restaurants.
I feel bad, but he is like a family to us.
For goodness's sake.
If you are overworked, why don't you quit?
I started working at her café since I was in my early 20s.
My energy and passion went into this job.
I don't mind working at the café because it's what I want to do.
However, it's too exhausting to work at other stores.
Friends asked me, "Are you the family slave?"
- Seriously. - "What are you doing?"
I think we should talk to the owner's mother and brother.
Ma'am, Ho Chun works at the café.
Why do you call him over to the pub?
I have never done that.
- What is she talking about? - Didn't Ho Chun help at the pub?
Did Ho Chun lie?
I call my daughter over.
When I do that, Ho Chun comes instead.
I never asked him for help.
He does what needs to be done without being told.
I never made him work.
Ho Chun, you told us that the owner's mother calls you over.
She calls me at the café.
She says she has never done that.
She said, "Ho Chun, come quickly. We have a group."
- What's the truth? - Did she call herself?
- Yes, she did. - Who called?
Sometimes, my daughter picks up. Sometimes, Ho Chun does.
- You called him over. - I called my daughter over.
(I called my daughter over.)
(It will be hard to untangle the story behind Ho Chun's worry.)
When the café closes, the employees sometimes...
go to the pub with Ae Seon for drinks.
When we drink there, Ae Seon's mother goes home...
even when there are customers on the second floor.
- What happens then? - Then I have to close up the pub.
- You are left to close up the pub. - They are customers at the pub.
Ma'am, you should stay behind if there are customers in your pub.
I didn't want to make Ho Chun and his friends uncomfortable.
I went home so that he can enjoy the food.
- You wanted him to enjoy the food. - Yes.
(Nodding)
You wanted him to enjoy the food.
If you work overtime,
- do you get paid more? - That's right.
- No, I don't. - You don't?
(He never got paid for working overtime.)
You never got overtime pay.
Even parents give their children money for shining shoes.
This is a business situation.
(Is this how family treats one another?)
He wouldn't accept overtime pay even if we offered.
- I disagree. - You don't know that.
Try giving him overtime pay.
- Try giving him overtime pay. - Have you ever tried?
- No, I haven't. - Try and see if he refuses.
Why do you think he wouldn't accept more money?
It only takes him 10 to 20 minutes to help us out.
- 10 to 20 minutes? - He should have...
- refused to help. - How long does it take to close up?
I have helped out for a short period of time during busy hours.
Sometimes, it lasted an hour or two.
- That's not 10 to 20 minutes. - Ma'am,
he has sometimes helped out for an hour or two, right?
I have no way of knowing since I went home.
(I have no way of knowing since I went home.)
- This is ridiculous. - Ho Chun is definitely overworked.
Now I know why Ho Chun is here. It's impossible to talk to them.
- This is ridiculous. - "I have no way of knowing."
Part-time employees get paid 6 to 7 dollars per hour,
but I have spent about 300 to 400 dollars on them.
- What do you mean? - I don't even buy my son steak,
- but I treated Ho Chun to steak. - Steak?
I spent over 300 dollars since he brought his friends.
- Ho Chun brought his friends. - That makes up for your trouble.
There were about 10 people.
- She treated you to steak. - That's true.
My goodness.
She has repaid you in her own way.
Ae Seon's mother has thanked me for my trouble with food.
Even though Ae Seon's brother works me the hardest,
- he never gives me anything. - Ae Seon's brother.
- I see. - Ae Seon's brother is the target.
- It seems that way. - Really?
(You will give answers to what you have done.)
- Why do you make Ho Chun work? - What do you ask him to do?
It's not like that. I think of him as a part of the family.
Everyone says the same thing!
(The word "family" can sound so scary.)
I think of him as my real brother.
Since I work alone without employees,
things can get a bit overwhelming.
- Ho Chun is right next door. - My goodness.
Ho Chun was also in my unit during his military service.
- Really? - He was in your unit.
We were in the same Navy unit.
- They were in the Navy. - That's tough.
I just feel comfortable around him. I don't order him around.
I ask him for help.
He makes me do everything.
What does he make you do?
- You were in the same Navy unit. - He asked me to write the menu.
He then complained about font size and my execution.
Last year, the banner at his pub ripped during the storm.
"Ho Chun, since I am short, you should sew the banner."
- They are not in the Navy anymore. - He should have called an expert.
I had to sew the banner under the scorching sun.
He makes me work on my days off, too.
- Ae Seon's brother does? - What did he ask you to do?
I was at home when he called me and made me work.
- You should have refused. - You shouldn't have gone.
- Why did you go? - He was my superior in the Navy.
(He was my superior in the Navy.)
You weren't even busy, so you had no excuse, right?
Ae Seon's mother buys Ho Chun drinks and meat...
for his help. How do you compensate him?
Employees at my sister's café go on a little get together trip.
I found out that Ho Chun was going as well,
so I compensated him through my sister.
- What did you give her? - Money.
- You paid for Ho Chun's trip. - Yes.
Wait. Then why are you on this show?
You have been compensated enough.
- You ate steak, too. - I had no idea.
- I just found out. - How much did the trip cost?
- It cost 700 dollars per person. - My goodness.
He did more than enough,
Ae Seon's brother paid for your trip.
How much did you pay for the trip?
I paid 700 dollars.
- What? - How much did you give Ae Seon?
- Did she give it back? - What happened?
I gave Ae Seon 400 dollars.
- He gave his sister 400 dollars. - Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
- For goodness' sake. - Wait a minute.
- Wait a minute. - There was a delivery mishap.
Ho Chun should have been given 400 dollars in return.
- Did you receive the money? - No, I didn't.
- This is ridiculous. - What happened?
Ae Seon, I bet you didn't know things would get out of control.
No, I didn't think people would find out.
You stole money from your family member.
- I'm sure she can explain. - It's not like that.
I spent more money for meals during the trip.
Even though I didn't disclose it, I spent 400 dollars on Ho Chun.
- What? - What are you talking about?
- Wait a minute. - It didn't go solely to Ho Chun.
My brother gave me 400 dollars and told me to spend it on meals.
(She was supposed to spend it for Ho Chun.)
- You used the money for everyone. - Let's hear from Ae Seon's brother.
- You didn't specify your intent. - He didn't make it clear.
It's not like that. I didn't want to burden Ho Chun,
- so I left my sister in charge. - You should have given it to him.
Ae Seon spent the money on all employees.
I am sure he ate good food.
That's an excuse.
I wouldn't have brought this up if the situation didn't call for it.
You shouldn't have said anything.
You gained nothing from it.
Those are empty words. I feel no sincerity in them.
You could have given him a bonus. Why did you never do that?
I compensated him with food.
I know Ho Chun wouldn't take a bonus.
- Here we go again. - How would you know?
- My goodness. - You never gave him a bonus.
- Ask Ho Chun if he would take it. - Wait a minute.
If the family gives you a bonus for your hard work,
would you refuse it because it hurts your pride...
- and they are like a family? - No, I will accept it.
That's right.
We keep going back to financial compensations.
Have you compensated Ho Chun in any other way?
- Don't talk about the 400 dollars. - I don't mean money.
- One thing comes to mind. - What is it?
We went to reserve forces training together.
Ho Chun was the youngest and I was the senior soldier.
Since other soldiers tried to make him give a talent show,
- I went over and stopped them. - What did you say?
- I stopped them. - You stopped them.
- Yes. - It's quite the compensation.
(It's quite the compensation.)
He was saved from giving a talent show.
It can be a big favour when you don't want to do it.
- Let's ask Ho Chun. - Did you appreciate his help?
Since it was an extremely stressful situation,
- I bet it was. - I was thankful at the time.
However, three years have passed since the incident.
- Does he keep talking about it? - My goodness.
It wasn't that big of a help.
- Do you regret receiving his help? - I should have given a talent show.
I know. He might have done a great job.
People say, "A daughter-in-law is like a real daughter",
but such a thing doesn't exist.
Daughters are different from daughters-in-law.
- That's right. - He isn't a part of the family,
- You are right. - so treat him accordingly.
I treat him well.
- You treat him well. - Yes.
- Your feelings don't matter. - Do you pay him a lot?
- It should reflect on his wage. - His wage isn't high,
but I treat him well.
My goodness.
A regular customer will give us an unbiased opinion on this matter.
- Hello. - At where is Ho Chun mostly seen?
Ho Chun is seen everywhere.
Is it true that he gets called over to other places?
When I am at the café, he would disappear all of the sudden.
Then I would see him frying food at Ae Seon's mother's pub.
When I go to the pub run by Ae Seon's brother later,
he would be working as the waiter.
You must have thought you were looking at triplets.
- Seriously. - My goodness.
He is everywhere.
It's like magic.
Everyone speaks highly of him and says...
that he's such a hard working young man.
Sometimes, he has dark under eye bags.
He often looks exhausted and I feel bad for him.
- Praises can be harmful. - It seems that way.
You must have known that Ho Chun was struggling.
I only found out today. He has never talked about it.
I was always grateful for his help,
but I must have gotten very used to it.
(The family has gotten used to receiving help from Ho Chun.)
Ae Seon, do you help out in the pub if Ho Chun is unavailable?
Yes, I work at my mother's pub, too.
I go at least once a day.
Since you're part of the family,
you must help out without payment.
Well,
I get paid a bit.
You do?
(His eyes widened.)
He's like a family to us.
I think he's part of the family.
It's because he is like a family.
Does this mean you get paid for Ho Chun's work as well?
No, it's not like that.
(He feels deprived.)
- It's not like that. - How much do you get?
- Four hundred dollars? - I get paid 10 dollars per hour.
- What? - My mother pays me,
but my brother doesn't.
He has only paid me once.
So much for being a family.
- Ma'am. - She paid her flesh and blood.
At first, she refused to come over and help.
She said that her café is busy, too.
One time, I paid her 10 dollars for 10 minutes.
Since then, she comes in a minute no matter how busy her café is.
She runs over to help.
- She's always like that. - Ma'am, you should pay Ho Chun.
Ho Chun wouldn't accept the money.
You never gave him money.
He said earlier that he would.
(It's like talking to a wall.)
(I'm sorry, Ho Chun.)
You found out today that Ae Seon gets paid for helping out.
Yes, I had no idea.
How does that make you feel?
It's unbelievable. I work the most.
They said he's like their family.
Since you work the most,
how much do you think you should be paid?
I do 1,000 dollars' worth of work.
- In a month, right? - I hired a part-time employee...
after hearing about Ho Chun's worry.
You won't ask for his help anymore.
Yes, I hired a part-time employee yesterday.
I see.
You must have been in dire need of one.
- Yes. - Do you realise now...
how much work Ho Chun has been doing?
- Yes. - Please change your ways.
(Please be understanding to your employee.)
In my opinion,
- Ho Chun is bad at saying no. - That's right.
- Everything piles up in his chest. - I agree.
You said earlier that you want to continue working at the café.
- Yes. - Why?
I once prepared to take a working holiday.
In the end, I was unable to go because of personal reasons.
Ae Seon was the first one to call me and say,
"I heard about the news."
"It's okay. Come on over and we will share drinks."
She is a nice person.
I know. That is clear.
They think of you as a family.
My dream is to have my own business.
I want to open a café that only sells coffee.
You wish to focus on your job at Ae Seon's café.
Yes, I want to focus on the café.
You want to stay dedicated to your goal.
- It took courage to be here. - Yes.
You should say what's on your mind.
I applied to become an employee at Ae Seon's café...
because I want to work at a café.
I hope Ae Seon's mother and brother would help me focus on my job.
Do what you need to do because I won't be helping you.
(Do what you need to do.)
You will still go when they call you over, right?
- I think so. - It looks that way.
Let's start with Din Din.
I don't think it's a worry.
I think he should continue to stay close...
but refuse to help them out.
I also don't think it's a worry.
Because he is nice and bad at refusing requests,
he must have had a lot of inner trouble.
I think it's a worry for Ho Chun.
While it's a big worry for Ho Chun,
Ae Seon is one of the nicest bosses.
That's why I don't think it's a worry.
If you think it's a worry, please press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
- In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
- Time's up. - Stop.
Ae Seon, do you want to say a few words?
I will try my best to keep you away from my mother and brother.
Trying is not good enough. Take a firm stand.
- I will make sure to fend them off. - That's good.
(Thank you.)
Show us how many votes the worry received.
"Staff Is Family"
- It's over 100 votes. - It's more than I expected.
There must be a lot of part-timers here.
(Will there be a new winner?)
It received 144 votes.
(Eliminated, Survived)
The title is "Scratch My Back".
It's very fitting.
- I am serious. - There will be repercussions...
- if it isn't. - It's the perfect title.
- Really? - Trust me.
Hello, I'm a housewife with troubles sleeping...
who has been married for four years.
I am exhausted.
"Honey, you are home."
"I was waiting for you."
My goodness.
"Let's do it."
- "Let's do it." - My goodness.
- Don't be so vulgar. - Come on.
- You have a problem. - It's what the script says!
"You know how eagerly I wait for you every night."
- "All right." - My goodness.
"Here? Here?"
You are doing this on purpose.
He makes me work for over an hour.
"No, a little bit more. Move to the left."
"Right there! Hurry up and scratch me."
My husband asks me to scratch his back every night.
- I see... - He asks her to scratch his back.
People who haven't been in my shoes wouldn't understand.
It sounds like a joke, right?
It seems like an insignificant request.
"Honey, since the weather is nice, we should go out with our children."
"Okay, I will agree to go."
"As a reward, scratch my back for an additional 30 minutes."
"Promise to put your heart into it."
He makes deals to have me scratch his back.
It's not even a massage.
One time, I had a high fever of 38°C.
"Honey, how are you feeling?"
"I feel slightly better."
"Really? Would you scratch my back then?"
My goodness.
He should have married someone who loves scratching others' back...
instead of me.
Please stop my husband.
I think 30 seconds or a minute is enough to scratch one's back.
Why would it last 30 minutes?
My goodness.
You will be shocked once we delve deeper into the story.
Unbelievable bits will be unearthed.
- Please come on out. - Please come on out.
(Whose worry involves a husband who wants his back scratched?)
Hello.
Welcome.
(Choi Min Jung)
People don't know the gravity of the situation.
You would understand if you experienced it yourself.
- It happens every day. - Every day,
I scratch my husband's back for 30 minutes to an hour and a half.
- What? - It can last an hour and a half.
Like I said before, I don't understand.
Usually, 30 seconds is enough for back scratching.
Wouldn't his back hurt?
My husband told me that there is a ticklish spot on his back.
- A ticklish spot? - Yes. He asks me...
to scratch his back until I find that spot.
Maybe there's a problem with his skin.
I don't think there's anything wrong with his back.
- Have you tried exfoliating? - I scrubbed his back...
- with an exfoliating towel. - Then his back shouldn't itch.
He still wanted me to scratch his back for 30 minutes.
- On the day he exfoliated? - Yes.
Maybe you have the best fingers for back scratching.
No, I have small hands.
- She is right. - Small hands might be the best.
She doesn't have long fingernails.
- My job doesn't allow it. - Where do you work?
- I work at a bank. - She must count money.
- Also, I have a baby. - That's right.
You won't be able to grow out your nails unless you switch jobs.
While it's extreme, married couples should help out...
- by scratching each other's back. - That's right.
It's only possible when they get along...
and the husband brings home a lot of money.
He is right. I wouldn't mind it if he treats me nicely.
When my husband comes home from work,
he doesn't do anything. I am on maternity leave...
to raise a 20-month-old baby.
- He doesn't move a finger, does he? - I take care of the baby,
but he says, "Water. Turn on the light. Turn off the light."
- My goodness. - Is he a royalty?
How does your husband react...
when you refuse to scratch his back?
He gets annoyed because he doesn't think it's a big request.
He gets annoyed.
He says, "You got drunk in Myeongdong one time."
"Don't you remember how I picked you up?"
- That's an unrelated topic. - Exactly. Yet he brings it up.
That's what he says when you don't scratch his back.
He reminds you of the time he was nice to you.
That's right.
Even though he hasn't said a word all day,
he acts cute in the evening.
"Scratch my back."
It's kind of cute.
Do you think it's cute?
(Serious)
It's not cute.
Compliments on her husband makes her mad.
- Don't say it's cute. - I don't find it cute.
Let's talk to her husband. Hello.
I was curious about him.
(Who is the husband who wants his back scratched every night?)
He is brazen.
You understand your wife's worry, right?
It's not hard work. She doesn't scratch hard.
This is what she does.
I don't understand what's so tiring about that.
How dare she...
- defy her husband's request... - Did you say "Dare"?
(Dare?)
when he came back from work?
Do you really think that's an appropriate word to use?
(Oh)
- "How dare". - Do you have patriarchal beliefs?
Just talk comfortably.
I'll change it to "I cannot believe".
I cannot believe why she would think that's hard.
That's weird, too.
- You can't understand why? - No.
One hour is too long.
- One minute would be enough. - I agree.
30 percent of the time is devoted to get rid of itchiness.
While the other 70...
(What about the other 70 percent?)
is to feel her love.
- By getting scratched? - Her touch.
- Is she scratching gently? - Yes, it's very soft.
She would then find the spot while scratching me.
And I'm thinking, "Right there. Scratch it." And she scratches me.
That's when I feel really good.
You know the feeling you get when climbing?
- The breeze at the mountain top. - Is it that good?
- That's how I feel. - Really?
That's what I feel when she scratches my back.
The feeling you get from a breezy mountain top.
When she scratches you,
does it end with scratching? Or is there something after that?
I ask her to scratch me until I fall asleep.
Do you fall asleep that way?
- Yes I do. - But that's...
- What about your wife? - I would be mad.
That's only good for you and it's annoying for her.
I heard you get upset if you're not satisfied with her scratches.
She needs to be sincerer.
- She looks at her phone doing it. - It's hard for her.
- That makes you mad? - Do you think that's insincere?
Yes, I think she does it on purpose to make me angry.
- Then what are you doing... - Then...
while she's scratching you?
Are you on your phone?
- Do you get jealous, too? - I'm on my phone.
- You're on your phone? - He plays games on his phone.
Or...
How can you be insincere when you're giving her your back?
- You should feel it. - You should try to fall asleep.
- Say something. - Don't push me into a corner.
(Don't be so aggressive.)
No, we're not pushing you into a corner.
You two are not communicating. It's a one way thing.
Only you are satisfied.
- We don't even talk. - Right?
- We don't talk during that moment. - He's playing games.
Don't you think she gets stressed from doing it?
Men work outside for 10 hours and...
(He still doesn't get it.)
No, no. When I work,
I always work overtime for 30 minutes to an hour.
- She works, too. - She does housework.
- She's not working. She's on leave. - Really?
She's on leave. She's not doing anything.
- What? - Maybe not anything.
But almost. She's at home resting with the baby.
It's not that much to give me some of her time.
I can't understand why she thinks this is a worry.
He says that you're resting. What do you think about that?
I was doing the dishes.
My husband called me urgently.
He saw that our daughter pooped.
He told me it's disgusting and I should clean it up.
(Shocked)
And then...
Look at his face.
- Who's telling the truth? - The husband is saying no.
When I finally sit down, he asks me to scratch his back.
- That's when you start? - Yes, he tells me to.
How was it like before marriage?
My brother used to scratch it for me.
- His brother? - His brother.
The history of his back scratching habit is long.
Can you relate to your sister-in-law?
I can relate completely.
Because this used to be my worry.
Since elementary school until the time he got married,
I scratched him for 30 minutes...
- everyday. - 30 minutes?
- From elementary school? - Yes, from sixth grade.
What was the hardest thing, then?
This isn't what a human should do.
- We can do 20 to 30 seconds. - Right.
But to scratch him every day for 30 minutes at a time...
It was torture.
I think he started to scratch me since elementary school.
And thanks to my brother, I was able to get through puberty.
I wasn't as stressed.
He only got through puberty well because of the back scratching.
We used to live together during university.
I was hanging out with my friends at night.
Then my brother called me and said something urgent happened at home.
Something urgent.
So I rushed home, and my brother...
was on his bed. He asked me to scratch his back.
- That's why? - If it was me, I'd kick him.
It was really annoying.
While looking at his back...
- It was so itchy. - Wow.
It was so itchy.
(When was it not itchy?)
Does he ask you to scratch it when you're out, too?
We went to a water park when we were dating.
Your skin gets soft when you play in the water.
- Your skin gets soft. - That's right.
He asked me to scratch it, so I did.
And dead skin came off. A lot of it.
- Really? - Did you see her face?
- "Dead skin came off." - It was disgusting.
It was disgusting.
People think it's dirty to scratch the back outside.
My dad scratches my mum's back.
So does my brother-in-law. He scratches my sister's back.
When my wife talks about this to my sister,
she doesn't think it's a big deal.
- I'm not sure... - Okay.
Is that your sister beside you?
He just said that you and your mum are the same.
Is that true?
We lived like this all our lives.
To be honest, I can't understand...
- why it's a problem. - Is that a family tradition?
- Tradition? - The sister asks as well.
- Do you ask your husband, too? - It was a tradition.
- Goodness. - Yes.
- How long in a day? - Thirty minutes?
Maybe 20 minutes? 20 minutes...
- That's the same thing. - I fall asleep within that time.
I also do it with my husband.
Are you saying then that you don't understand her?
You think it's not a big deal for her to scratch him, right?
- To be honest, she can scratch him. - She's the same though.
- For an hour to an hour and half? - Everyday.
That might be too long.
But like my brother said so earlier,
if you're focused and sincere...
If you do your best...
- My goodness. - I need 20 to 30 minutes, too.
This is a big troublemaker between the in-laws.
- That's amazing. - Before that...
As for the husband,
did your wife ever talk to you about her worries?
- She's a little teary now. - No.
- Because no one understands her. - That's right.
- She's crying. - Yes.
When she talks about her worry, his family would say,
"It's natural in our family."
- "What's wrong with you?" - Yes.
- Those of you who just tuned in, - No one listens to her.
might think that she's having a hard time with her in-laws.
- I've never heard such thing. - It's because of back scratching.
She's sad because of his family and their nagging.
(They made her upset.)
- They nagged at her. - You're right.
He's right. They nagged her.
I agree.
My sister-in-law told me how she was troubled before...
and cried then.
- Did she cry? - Yes.
That was when my niece was a newborn.
It's hard for the mum if you're breastfeeding.
It seemed like my brother asked her...
to scratch his back even then.
I felt a little bad for her then.
Since I'm a mother, too.
- When was the worst? - When you were pregnant?
Yes, when I was pregnant. I don't want to be pregnant again.
(I don't want to get pregnant because of it.)
When people get pregnant, usually the husbands give massages.
- Yes, they do. - They give a lot of massages.
- Because you're pregnant. - Of course.
But I was the one scratching his back.
That's a bit too much.
When I was almost due and my belly was huge,
I'd ask him to grab something for me since it's hard to walk.
He would say, "Don't you have feet?"
- He doesn't even change diapers. - He never...
All I have memories of in the 10 months of pregnancy is scratching.
What about during the delivery?
I had a C-Section.
I was starting to gain consciousness.
He couldn't have asked you.
When you woke up from the anaesthesia?
- He asked you? - He asked me then, too.
(Is he serious?)
This is a little...
I tried to endure it, but I couldn't hold it anymore.
It doesn't go away even if someone else does it.
- I asked her to scratch a little. - A little bit?
I didn't know this could be a worry.
- But it's a worry. - It's a worry.
- It's really serious. - Yes.
- He doesn't realise it's serious. - Not at all.
We were talking a while ago, and...
he said he came home after working hard.
He told me I should treat him well.
If I want to be treated well, I should go work, too.
How can she work with the baby?
"If you want to be treated well, go make money, too."
Who will take care of the baby?
After listening to this, his sister's face changed.
She's saying, "How dare he?"
- The thing... - How can you say that to her?
My personality is...
Men from Gyeongsang Province are not good with expressing themselves.
You're really good at making excuses right now.
Do you know what the problem is with people from Gyeongsang?
They always use that as an excuse.
I try in my own way.
I buy her a lot of shoes and made a path of candles.
And I even put cash and cheques in a bouquet.
- I expressed it through actions. - You made surprises for her?
She says it's hard to scratch my back.
That upsets me.
Instead of surprising her that way, why don't you...
- reduce the scratching? - Refrain from it.
You need to refrain from it.
I quit smoking, and I tried to quit games, too.
I tried to quit scratching, too.
- But when the time comes... - Who quits scratching?
- Cigarettes and back scratching? - Who quits scratching?
Do you think it's easy?
Wow.
Since your wife is always scratching you, she's tired.
It hurts her arms.
Do you massage her arms?
As for massages, I do them.
But it's tiring.
The amount of energy you need...
I always scratch my wife's back.
I always scratch her.
I'm more worried about the future.
- You have to go back to work, too. - That's right.
When I was still working even before the baby,
I'd tell him about the rude customers I had that day.
Then he would say, "I don't care. Just scratch my back."
- That's what he says. - There's no communication.
- He should talk... - Of course,
even if I go back to work, I'd still have to do housework.
I have to work the same amount as before.
But he wants me to scratch his back, too.
- I'm dreading it. - You're going to be tired.
I'm worried, too. I'm dreading it.
You call it communication, but to us it's not.
Whenever she says anything, you tell her to scratch your back.
It's something really small.
You seem to make a lot of mistakes with your words.
- What you say is very upsetting. - Yes.
"Don't you have feet?" That's very painful to hear.
Let's say you're eating out. She asks you to pass the spoon.
"Don't you have hands?"
What's the point of eating? You turned her into a handless person.
This is very important.
When this happens, I always feel bad the next day.
I think about it a lot.
What's the point if you don't express it?
- He's sorry but he does it again. - You have to say it.
If it's that hard to scratch, can I switch it to my hair or ears?
- Maybe we can switch it. - I really hate it.
How about helping her with some housework?
She'll be more willing to scratch you since she's thankful.
- Housework. - If she scratches me well,
I can do anything for her.
- Is it that important? - He can't give it up.
- Why didn't you tell her? - Why is it so important?
I don't think he needs it for the actual feeling.
The process turns him into the owner and her into a slave.
I think he psychologically needs that confirmation.
Just like how he asked his brother before marriage,
it's the thought of having someone he can order around.
The doctor's analysis is very persuasive.
- The doctor... - Of course it's possible.
- But if I agree to it... I didn't. - I agree.
After listening today, I think the wife feels like...
she's not loved and she's only given money to scratch.
And the only reason he's good to her is for her to scratch his back.
- That must have scarred her. - That's right.
- Am I right? - On top of that...
- Yes. - How do you want to be loved?
Maybe kind words?
- Kind words. - Kind words.
(The core of this worry is beyond the back scratching.)
Lastly, say something to your husband.
We even came on a television show. Everyone in the country saw it.
Since we came all the way here, let's try to fix it.
And if you want your back scratched, help me around the house...
and with the baby. And I will scratch you for 10 minutes.
- That's good. - That's nice.
Let's start with Hong Seok Cheon. Do you think it's a worry?
Press the button.
I think it's a worry.
I don't think he realises that this is a serious harassment.
Yes, I think it's a worry too.
To do something you hate for an hour or even a day is...
I don't think I'd want to live. I think it's a worry.
This is definitely a worry.
There's no communication and he's not even thankful.
If you agree with her worry, please press the button.
(What does the audience think?)
Everyone's pressing.
- In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. - In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.
- Stop. - That's it.
He's our winner from last week.
What did you think about the story today?
There is a book titled, "The World Is Huge and There Are Lots To Do".
I realised there are various types of men in this world.
If I'm born again, I'd like to have a kind wife like her.
(I wish I had a kind wife like her.)
He just... He just gave two people a blow.
All right. She asked you to help her with housework...
in return for back scratching.
Can you say something to that?
I tried hard to quit scratching, but I can't.
However, I'll reduce the communicating part.
I'll tell her which areas I want to be scratched.
And how long will that take?
- She said 10 minutes. - 10 minutes.
- It shouldn't take more than 10. - It won't take 10 minutes.
She can finish it in 10 seconds if I tell her the spots.
- 10 seconds then? - Great.
- Then... - She's so happy.
But... But...
She smiled!
She's crying tears of joy.
- She smiled! - She's crying.
- Well... - But.
- But? - But?
- If I get a lot of itchy spots... - Short scratches?
If she can scratch me for a shorter time but more often...
- 10 seconds is nothing. - That's not hard.
(I'm glad it worked out.)
All right. "Let's Break Up" had 181 votes.
Show us the result.
(The result)
- What? 100... - 81?
- What will it be? - Are they going to tie?
- They are both married couples. - Is it a tie?
(Eliminated)
Therefore, "Let's Break Up" takes a second win.
We will give the winner a 1,000 dollars gift certificate.
Until the day we are all worry-free,
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- Thank you. - Thank you.
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